really ? once in a while good things happen ! for now any way
How sad for those people who need affordable housing. Like it or not, people need places to live and this project was going to help not only those people looking for places to live but for the added jobs created to build these units. It always amazes me how a small group of power hungry people can affect so many. I certainly understand the developers, it is simply not worth the headaches to deal with the likes of these people who have self-desiganted to decide what is good for everyone else. Sad.
Yup, why build decent apartments for our kids to live in when there are plenty of dirty, falling down shacks and old trailers scattered around the county for them to live in for about the same price?
It doesnt matter what level of governmnent you are talking about ..the government does not represent the people. It represents itself or a special interest behind closed doors
Too bad we are running these guys out of town. So they want to improve a pile of rocks on a parcel ruined by the miners of 49. This is private property, these guys should be able to develop THEIR land. I hope this group is satisfied when there are no jobs for construction, painting, electrical etc. You know the trades that many in this county depend on to feed their families!
FYI - These were not "affordable" apartments for minimum wage workers at $900-$1,200/month. And the Stupid-visors vetoed and disbanded the Columbia planning commission and were going to pay for the street, sewer and school fees required. AND our boys at TUD were also on board giving them a pass on upgrades to the water system that can't even supply the current community. It was never about housing, it was about building a ready made customer base for their failed retail center at the Pedro Y.
If they want to work with the REAL community and abide by the laws like everyone else, then they would be welcome. But, in this case the plan was not economically feasible without a huge injection of taxpayer 'assistance'.
Think it over
To sesroh and JWC if you knew the history of the developers and affiliates you would not want them in this community one of them is enough
To sesroh, the project was proposed as an "upscale" development with pool clubhouse, and possibly gated. I don't think affordable housing was ever an object of consideration and the developers in Tuolumne County have decimated the Ordinance so now the Inclusion of affordable units is Optional.
Gosh golly gee, go figure, the NIMBY No-Growthers win again.
That piece of property has been vacant for eons of time why not build on it? I agree affordable housing is needed everywhere.
Responsible in "Citizens for Responsible Growth" is loaded and a misnomer. I am tired of this special interest group degrading the vitality of our community. I am looking forward to this group challenging my future investments in the judicial branch. Unlike the group of investors in this email, I am not going to back down. This group will lose in the face of my expertise in public policy, finance, and my passion for serving the public and future generations. To the group: your time of unchecked influence, intimidation, and the destruction and degradation of wealth is coming to an end. Your development principles are foolish, are correlated with this region's unemployment level, have led to the mass exodus of younger generations, and have sustained suffering.
So, has the permit been withdrawn BECAUSE of the "pending agreement" between the parties?, or is the article just written poorly and seemingly make no sense. It there is an agreement, why then is the developer pulling out? At any rate, too many developers in this county have the idea that their money making projects should just be unencumbered with requirements and questions and should be gratefully and embraced blindly, ah, yes, by the needy and poor citizens of the county in need of their gracious and giving dispositions. Right!! What we need is some supervisors who are not prone to give it all away for straw and pennies, with no hard questions asked. Too many phone calls in the night, and coffee meetings to iron out the "problems" the poor benevolent developers want to solve.
This is the third time in recent history that our Board of Supervisors has approved a major project with out requiring standard environmental review called for by the California Environmental Quality Act. The prior two were the Red Tail Ridge subdivision project and the Cooperstown Mine. So, the message here is not that we can't have affordable housing or other environmentally sound development projects in the county; but that we should follow established law in designing and approving new projects. It appears that if our Board of Supervisors doesn't particularly like a law they don't think they have to follow it. Hopefully that attitude will change. Other counties approve good projects after doing proper environmental review and the developers seem to be able to make a profit.
There is plenty of nice housing in our area of all kinds going begging for nice young people to live in. Just look the paper is flooded with ads. 20 years ago the nicest apartments in town were on Greenly Rd. I went there and they said I had to be on welfare to live there. Jamestown has Preston Lane and lots of crime
We don't want low cost apartments to house more drug users and crime oriented people. Those kinds of people belong in Modesto where apathy rules the roost.
Developers can build their little cash cow projects in Modesto or elsewhere. No need to put on your little feel sorry for me act
If we, as a society, want to keep having babies unchecked; we will need places for them to live. If you are opposed to more houses in your neighborhood,vthen you should be complaining about global overpopulation, not affordable housing. If you are opposed to that, then do not complain about people living in shacks, tents, or in their car at the end of your road! People have to live "somewhere", period. "Not in my backyard" does not cut it any more, we have to Learn to share our resources if we are going to continue to breed. Isn't that what Jesus would do, share? Dont like neighbors, move to Alaska. Our entire economy is based on growth, don't whine when it happens.
Citizens for Responsible Growth should rename themselves "The Not In My Neighborhood Group"
Wow,really, I think some people in TC are in favor of afforable housing, but might want developers to pay the increased costs to roads, schools and utilities that their project would create and NOT pass those increased costs on to taxpayers and ratepayers! I believe it is only fair that taxpayers and ratepayers should feel that way. Maybe all the posters above who lament the lose of these apartments should send checks to the developers. Should be easy to get the address, wasn't one of then a city councilman?
This apartment project of 80 units was proposed as an "upscale" development with a swimming pool, clubhouse and possibly gated entry. There was never mention of affordable housing with rent set at $1200 for a two bedroom unit. According to paid analysts, the 526 vehicles coming and going from this project, would be added to the projected 2000+ trips a day for the proposed shopping center. A complete analysis of impacts from the combined projects is required by California Law. Citizens for Responsible Growth represented the Columbia community, Concerned Citizens Against the Over Development of Columbia, upon request.
For once I partially agree with Coiler, except I'm worried about national overpopulation more than global overpopulation. The national birth rate is at replacement level, but immigrants who come in add to population and have a higher birth rate. We need to close the borders. We can all draw the line at more development in this town and prevent it from getting bigger and more crowded. Those who like crowds can live in Modesto and I hear real estate is cheap in Stockton. Coiler you shouldn't be encouraging people to move to Alaska and turn it into what we have turned California into. Wildlife needs somewhere to live.
Coiler hits the nail on the head. As long as folks are vehemently opposed to birth control and abortion, you have to accept the consequences: an enlarging population, with fewer job opportunities and poorer education.
Crimes rates drop when abortion became legal. The folks that push for its ban need to know that they're contributing to the housing problem, the unemployment problem, and the crime problem.
There is a huge national developer who is preparing plans to add a number of housing and apartment complexes in the Columbia and Sonora area. I asked one of the executives from the company how they were planning to get around the "Citizens for Responsible Growth" and his response was funny.
"We deal with their type all of the time, we have great lawyers, lots of money and a long term perspective on business. If we want something to happen, we make it happen. We deal with groups like that on every project."
Should be fun to watch...
One way to affordable housing would be to kick out the millions of illegal immigrants who have invaded our country at the invitation of DemocRats. You know, supply and demand.
Another idea would be not to elect people ( Carter,Clinton & Obama )who destroyed the world economy with the Community Reinvestment Act, repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act, Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act and Acorn.
I don't hate the ideas, I hate the plan.
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